Summary

Property commentator Russell Quirk on the collapse of his online agency eMoov, rebuilding with Proper PR, why failure is the path to success, the case for the self-employed agent who keeps most of the fee, and why you cannot digitise empathy.

Ross's Reflection

Russell has failed bigger and rebuilt faster than almost anyone in our industry, and he is honest about both. His challenge on fees is one I make in Worth Every Penny. Stop apologising for the number and start building the worth that justifies it.

Ross D'Aniello, host

Key Quotes

Always have a plan B.

Russell Quirk · 14:55

Ross: Optionality is oxygen. Build the alternative before you need to breathe it.

Stop making excuses on fees and do something about it. Stop blaming everybody else.

Russell Quirk · 41:08

Ross: The fee debate ends when the service argument is won. That is the whole of Worth Every Penny.

If you're on seventy percent of the fee, you're financially bought in. So you're going to be better.

Russell Quirk · 45:06

Ross: Ownership of the outcome changes the standard of the work. Our Partner Agent model is built on exactly this.

You cannot digitise empathy.

Russell Quirk · 1:00:08

Ross: The most defensible skill in the industry costs nothing to practise.

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Transcript

14:55Russell

Always have a plan B. My plan B was the PR agency. I needed a backup, because although I was still fighting hard, I had to have an alternative.

25:36Russell

Failure leads to success. You can't really get to that success without pushing the envelope and knowing how failure feels and how it manifests itself.

41:08Russell

We've got to stop moaning that we only get one percent. Stop making excuses for the fact that we're not very good at service, and do something about it. Stop blaming everybody else.

45:06Russell

If you're on seventy, sixty, fifty percent of the entire fee, you have an incentive to do the job much better. You're financially and emotionally bought in.

1:00:08Russell

You cannot digitise empathy. A big part of what a good PR agency, or a good agent, does is empathy and context, and you can feel that in the work.

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